what weight oil to use in winter for john deere 4010
1959 John Deere 440 IC Which Fluids?
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1959 John Deere 440 IC Which Fluids?
I bought a 1959 John Deere 440 IC gas with a sixway blade a couple of months ago. It is in good shape but ii cylinders for the blade leaked as well bad to use. I took them off and had them redone. The arms were aptitude and it cost a arm and leg to accept them redone.
I had several questions if somebody could help me out. I have the service manual. It says to use 10W hydraulic fluid. Also the motor oil needs to be topped off its about a pint low. It says 20W for summertime and 10W for winter. Here are my questions.
one. Can i simply put the cylinders on and summit off the fluid slowly working the cylinders to move fluid in.
2. The auto parts shop was clueless to what 10W hydraulic fluid is. Can you tell me what I need to purchase.
3. For the 10W and 20W motor oil would 10W-forty or 20W-fifty work or what should I use.
Obviuosly I'one thousand no mechanic. Its a nice machine I don't want to make a stupid mistake with fluids. I appreciate any advice I could get.
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tractor hydraulic fluid is what you want well-nigh parts stores take information technology and some walmarts do too and any good motor oil is ok you have to remember multi course was not around back then
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jtrichard wrote:tractor hydraulic fluid is what you want about parts stores have it and some walmarts do too and any good motor oil is ok you lot have to call up multi form was not effectually dorsum then
Thanks. Was I correct that all I have to do is top off the hydraulic fluid and slowly work the cylinder to allow fluid back in?
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most of the time that works ok .... it might take a little time to work the air out
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Duke: What color is your existing hydraulic oil? If it's light coffee colored or milky, you lot may accept water in information technology, and this would exist a good time to drain and refill fresh. Lavoy has said that he uses hydraulic oil in his machines - I've forgotten the specs (they're posted on this site in another thread). I've been running 20w straight motor oil in Vermont twelvemonth 'round without problems - I'll be changing over to hydraulic fluid adjacent summer. Expert luck with your machine. Paul
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Paul Buhler wrote:Knuckles: What color is your existing hydraulic oil? If it'south calorie-free coffee colored or milky, you may have h2o in it, and this would be a good time to drain and refill fresh. Lavoy has said that he uses hydraulic oil in his machines - I've forgotten the specs (they're posted on this site in another thread). I've been running 20w straight motor oil in Vermont year 'round without bug - I'll be irresolute over to hydraulic fluid side by side summertime. Expert luck with your machine. Paul
Thanks Paul.
The fluid looked ok to me. I went by Tractor Supply today and they had no 10W hydraulic fluid. They told me I would have to go to a lubricant supply eye and buy a 50 gallon drum of hydraulic fluid to get 10W. I was a petty skeptical of that. I then went to O'Reilys and bought some AW-32 Hydraulic fluid that is suppose to exist 10W. I recall that should exist OK.
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I run Hytran in my eqipmennt. I suspect these old machines are not particularly picky on the fluids, unlike the newer iron.
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hydrogeo wrote:I run Hytran in my eqipmennt. I suspect these onetime machines are not particularly picky on the fluids, different the newer iron.
I suspect you lot are right. I'thousand doing my all-time to adhere to the service manual on this old motorcar as I'm going to ask a lot from information technology. Is Hytrans what the John Deere Dealer sells?
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I found AO68 = 20wt hydro oil at Napa in v gal pails
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Hytran is merely a universal tractor hydraulic and trans oil. Most farm tractors employ the aforementioned oil for both the trans and hydraulic systems from a mutual reservoir. I run the fancy synthetic stuff in my Kubota, but the old junk just gets standard hytran. I'm certain JD sells it. I get my fluids either at Tractor Supply (for the inexpensive stuff) or Napa typically. If you poke around on the spider web y'all will see references to how bad oil was dorsum in the day compared to now. I suspect our inexpensive stuff now is far meliorate than the best stuff back and then.
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Any of the universal fluids will work in the hyd, but y'all will get some additional squealing, and typically they seem to driblet 100-200PSI system pressure.
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Lavoy wrote:Whatever of the universal fluids will work in the hyd, but you lot will get some additional squealing, and typically they seem to drop 100-200PSI arrangement pressure.
Lavoy
I remember I got the correct fluid then. Thanks Lavoy and the others for the good advice. This site is very helpful.
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duke1 wrote:
hydrogeo wrote:I run Hytran in my eqipmennt. I doubtable these quondam machines are not particularly picky on the fluids, dissimilar the newer iron.
I suspect you are right. I'm doing my best to attach to the service transmission on this sometime machine every bit I'thou going to ask a lot from it. Is Hytrans what the John Deere Dealer sells?
I think HyTrans is the name of the fluids that Case sells- John Deere sells HyGard.
I would not say that HyGard is the aforementioned as a generic universal tractor fluid (UTF). UTFs are blended to meet the specs of many manufacturers including Deere. Hygard is specifically formulated for Deere machinery. Like Lavoys stated, information technology shouldn't matter for the awarding you are considering (loader hydraulics). However several on this board have mentioned that it tin can brand a difference for powershift transmissions similar a HLR.
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I use 303 hydraulic oil in my 2010 HLR transmission. seems to work fine with no noticable bug.
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All the junk I run is so worn out the fluid spec is the to the lowest degree of my concerns, lol.
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